Your site is a joke. You really think the bit of advertising from Canada Post is harmful to the enviornment? I’d suggest you think of the jobs that advertising creates and not just in Canada Post. But not your husband or wife so why care EH?
I’d even go as far as to suggest you’re a pawn (or an employee of TorStar) I get 50 times the advertising in my local paper compared to what I get from Canada Post and we all know how TorStar wants the big $$$$.
Why waste your time on a stupid campaign like this when you could be out helping children and or adults cope with illness. There are far more important things in life than to get upset at a bit of junk mail.
Do you buy plastic bottles? Use plastic bags?
90% of the morons on this site couldn’t care about the enviornment and just need to complain about something as silly as junk mail….get a life!

Nice objective observation (sic)…. what do you spend your time doing ? .. washing your Hummer Truck?
Plastic bottles along side Plastic shopping bags may very well be next!… we can always try and hope.

Thank you, thank you! Although Canada Post states it believes most Canadians were aware of this option, I was not. Your downloadable forms made it so easy. And, actually, Gary, I try as much as possible to not buy plastic bottles and not use plastic bags. It’s hard to completely avoid plastic in our society, but I’m making more and more of an effort to make small changes. If we all do this it will have a big impact. The sturdy, big, reusable bags come in handy for all sorts of other things as well. And I do have a wonderful, fulfilling life (just happen to have a Monday off because I worked Saturday, otherwise I wouldn’t have time to read or write on a blog), and I find the less I shop and consume, the more time I have to enjoy playing games and going sledding with my kids, have heart-to-hearts with my husband, have friends over for supper, all things which don’t require flyers or advertising.
In terms of people’s jobs, as a society and a country we need to start thinking about how we are going to build an economy and create jobs that are not based on over-consumption and environmental destruction, so we don’t have to choose between jobs and the environment. It shouldn’t have to be one or the other. It can be done. I certainly don’t want anyone’s husband or wife to be put out of work, but I also want our kids and grandkids - mine and yours - to have a healthy world and healthy future.

While people’s livelihoods are always of concern if a job is inherently unnecessary and wasteful I don’t see why it should be protected. I am reminded of an acquaintance last year who had a family member that works for Revenue Canada and they were encouraging everyone they knew to send in paper tax returns so people could keep their jobs (data entry I assume). This makes no sense to me, if tax returns can be completed online saving paper, postage, fossil fuels used for transportation and time wasted re-entering data this seems like a great improvement all the way around. I’m sure the government could find actually useful ways for these people to spend their time.

As far as advertising jobs go it seems to me there is plenty of advertising online, it doesn’t seem like advertising producers can be in that much danger of running out of work.

Ah Gary, you sound like you’re going postal.

Wow allowing people to attack the Postman is a not good idea. I thought this site was soley about reducing junk mail not hate/flaming/lieing.
My post is waiting approval so the person who attacked the Postman must have been approved by you.

I’m a letter carrier too, and I see this site as being fair game.

As pointed out by several posters, unaddressed admail makes up a good chunk (around 20%) of CPC’s revenue. It is a money maker, I assure you! That said, customers should have the “right to refuse” BUT this has to BE MADE CLEAR TO THE LETTER CARRIER.

I always honour a customers request, but make it clear that you need to put up a visible sign (i.e. “No Flyers”/ “no Junk mail”/ “no unaddressed admail”) for two reasons:

1) Relief letter carriers (when I am off on holidays or sick leave) WILL NOT KNOW about your request without a sign.

2) I cannot remember everyone telling me not to deliver flyers. Full-time mail Routes are BIG. Mine has over 675 points of call, for example, and probably close to 900 different surnames. I cannot remember everything, all the time! (sorry)

It is my hope that advertisers will continue to use CPC as a medium to get their products/services through via unaddressed admail, but will be more creative/sensitive/etc. in doing so as to produce less waste and understand the complex needs of customers today.

So communicate with your postie — put up a SIGN or Red Dot…make it very clear! Help us do our jobs better.

I, too, am a Canada Post carrier. I, too, honour the wishes of customers who do not want to receive flyers. Even though the delivery of flyers (and other “junk mail”) makes up a small portion of my pay, I would be more than happy to work for less and not have to deliver these items. However, my employer does not permit me to encourage people to not accept flyers.

To the business guy who says he will deliver to addresses using students rather than Canada Post if flyers arent delivered: I have a No flyers sign on my mailbox because I do not appreciate so much paper waste. If you deliver to my house when I have that sign up, it tells me that you cant read, and that you do not respect my enviromental concerns and my values. If that is the message I am receiving by your ignorant actions you can bet I will refuse to do business with you as well. The first line of business is to please your customers!!
In marketing you may have learned that if you please one customer you will be lucky if they tell 3 friends. If you give bad service or annoy a potential customer, you can bet they will tell 50 of their friends. Word of mouth advertising is the most effective and most respected form of advertising. Build your business on that principle alone and you will go far. Pushing your business disrespectfully on consumers will only create resistance and you will ultimately fail!!

Hi Lucjan,

There is no mail being lost in the junk mail unless you lose it by not clearing and sorting through the accumulated mail, flyers and newspapers that can quickly jam a box full. As far as the windy day goes, if the postman has put all mail in the box, how did it get on the fence? I would more likely suspect the local papers that are usually tossed on the porch and are not delivered by Canada Post as the source of the mess.

Do you have civic pride? Set an example for your neighbours and get out there with a garbage bag.

re : comment by John I fail to see how I am “accepting money…under false pretences”when ,at the end of each day my remaining flyers are taken to the supervisors’office, counted, bundled, dated and signed by me.This allows Canada Post to accurately assess how many flyers are actually being delivered and pay me accordingly. In the end ,all I am doing is eliminating a problem at the source.The red dot was only given to those who consistantly over a period of time(two weeks) returned all their flyers What other conclusion can I come to,other to acknowledge they simply dont want unaddressed mail? Whether my customers tell me to stop junk mail verbally, by sign or by Red dot campaign ,it’s all the same thing and I respect my customers wishes ,regardless of their methods. It just illustrates how much the Red dot campaign is needed, when so many are unaware that all they have to do is ASK.

To Doug Feb. 21/ 08— Re C.M. B. sites Be careful. I did exactly the same thing, addressed ad mail ( left a note advising a “no flyer sign” should be attached to the mail box) and then affixed a red dot. I was terminated, re-instated 2 days before arbitration. They are evil!!